Volume 11 Number 36
                       Produced: Mon Jan 24 20:29:05 1994

Subjects Discussed In This Issue: 

Administrivia - Mazal Tov
         [Avi Feldblum]
Burial of a Non-Jew in a Jewish Cemetary
         [Joel B. Wolowelsky]
Chevra Kadisha: Tehillim
         [Freda Birnbaum]
         [Robert J. Tanenbaum]
Looking for an email contact in Jerusalem
         [Steve Schulman]
Men Setting up Kiddush
         [Harry Weiss]
Post-graduate programs in Israel for women
         [Stephen Prensky]
Seagram's Chivas Regal
         [Howard Reich]
Second weddings and Greece
         [Zev Gerstl]
Southern Comfort
         [Perets Mett]
Tu Bishvat & Shmita
         [Aryeh Blaut]
         [Merril Weiner]


From: mljewish (Avi Feldblum)
Date: Mon, 24 Jan 94 20:05:49 -0500
Subject: Administrivia - Mazal Tov

I'd like to use this forum to let you all know that I have gotten
engaged, and will be married b'ezrat haShem before Pesach. Yes, Carolynn
knows I am addicted to mail-jewish, and reads it when I manage to print
it out and bring it home. I would also like to wish a Mazal Tov to Ezra,
who has also gotten engaged and has sent in an engagement announcement
for the list. A Mazal Tov to Zev Gerstel and Merril Weiner on their
upcoming marriages as well.
May we continue to have many simchot amoung ourselves.

Avi Feldblum
mail-jewish Moderator


From: <sl14403@...> (Joel B. Wolowelsky)
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 94 12:36:06 -0500
Subject: Burial of a Non-Jew in a Jewish Cemetary

I think the question of burying non-Jews in a Jewish cemetary is very
different from the one of burying non-halakhic converts there.  The latter
might well have acquired Shem Yisrael even though they might not have
Kedushat Yisrael.  The same cannot be said for the former.  
Moshe Yeres has an interesting article on "Burial of Non-Halakhic Converts"
in Tradition 23:3, Spring 1988 (Reprinted in The COnversion Crisis).

Joel Wolowelsky


From: Freda Birnbaum <FBBIRNBA@...>
Date: Thu, 20 Jan 94 19:46:20 -0500
Subject: Chevra Kadisha: Tehillim

There is a very strong custom of the shomer [the person
watching/accompanying a dead person between the death and the burial]
to be saying tehillim while doing so.  I've checked in several books
and not found that there are any specific or preferred tehillim to be
said on this occasion, although I have seen lists of appropriate
tehillim to be said on behalf of a sick person, or at a graveside.  I
recently had to do this on extremely short notice and no one available
to ask, so I began at the beginning and went through in order until it
was time to go.

Of course I will consult the appropriate LOR/AHA (appropriate halachic
authority-figure) but I was wondering if anyone is familiar with this.
It IS true that chevra-kadisha practices have a very great deal of
variation from place-to-place, so I expect a variety of responses!
Sources WELCOME.

Freda Birnbaum, <fbbirnbaum@...>


From: <btanenb@...> (Robert J. Tanenbaum)
Date: Mon, 24 Jan 94 16:36:11 EST
Subject: Engaged

Last Friday night Parshat BeShalach I got engaged.  The woman's name is
Esther Marcus. She's from my synagogue, teaches special education in the
Elizabeth public schools, and has two children: Daniel age 12 and Sara
age 6.  My children are Shoshana age 14, Tzvi age 10, and Shlomo age 5.

We're looking to have the wedding in the end of May -- maybe
Memorial Day weekend.

I guess, I just want to hangout with her the rest of our lives.  If G-d
can give the Jewish people the strength to walk through the Red Sea,
then he can certainly give me strength to get married again.  It's not
the first, but it's sure to be the last.

Ezra Bob Tanenbaum	1016 Central Ave	Highland Park, NJ 08904
home: (908)819-7533	work: (212)450-5735
email: <btanenb@...>


From: Steve Schulman <schulman@...>
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 1994 10:21:06 -0500
Subject: Looking for an email contact in Jerusalem

My daughter is spending this year at a seminary in Bayit Vegan.  Is
there anyone in Yerushalayim who has access to internet and wouldn't
mind her occasionally visiting them so we could chat?

Steve Schulman


From: <harry.weiss@...> (Harry Weiss)
Date: Fri, 21 Jan 94 15:43:18 
Subject: Men Setting up Kiddush

IN MJ 11-27 Rivkah Isseroff asks "whether this custom of the (presumably
male) Bal-abatim setting up the kiddush during the Mussaf repetition is
Halachically correct, or would this activity be better relegated to the
women congregants who are not obligated in Tefillah at this specific
time."  Rabosai, this is an important question, and Rivkah is trying to
find the Pshat on a existential basis.  In the meantime I want to thank
Rivkah for agreeing to pinch hit and replace the men in setting up the

:-) Harry


From: Stephen Prensky <PRENSKY@...>
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 1994 10:12:35 -0700 (MST)
Subject: Post-graduate programs in Israel for women

The daughter of a good friend is interested in finding out the range 
of post-graduate Jewish studies for women that are available in 
Israel.  Sponsors can include the spectrum of Jewish organizations 
both in the US and Israel.  Financial assistance or the opportunity to 
work during the program is a necessity.  Please indicate if the 
program offers scholarships or other forms of financial assistance, 
including work-study. 

This young lady (21 years) has little to no background in traditional 
Jewish learning, and is not fluent in Hebrew.  She is interested in 
programs oriented to either women only or mixed men/women.  

Direct replies preferred. 

Steve Prensky


From: <HREICH@...> (Howard Reich)
Date: Fri, 21 Jan 94 02:37:51 -0500
Subject: Seagram's Chivas Regal

     Should the public accept and rely upon the conclusions concerning
kashruth that a Seagram employee has drawn after an informal
investigation?  Seagram's reluctance to obtain reliable kashruth
certification is curious in light of its professed desire for Chivas
Regal to be accepted by the public as kosher, and its sale of Chametz
before Pesach through the OU.  Is there any reason why the public should
not as a matter of policy, insist upon reliable kashruth certification?
          Howard Reich (<hreich@...>)


From: <VWZEVG@...> (Zev Gerstl)
Date: 19 Jan 94 11:39:00 EST
Subject: Second weddings and Greece

The recent discussion on the nusach [format] of wedding invitations got me 
thinking. As I'm to be remarried soon and for my fiance it is also a second 
marriage I was wondering if anyone has suggestions for how to word the 
invitations. It's usually the parents who invite the guests. Any ideas are 

[Since I just FedEx'ed off the text of our invitation, here is what we
did: in the Hebrew (which is all I guess you will have :-) ), we
replaced the line "lyom klulat benotanu" (or some such language) with
simply "lyom klulatanu". We did put our parents names on the bottom of
the invitation. Avi]

As we are thinking of Greece for a honeymoon any information on Kosher and 
Shabbat in Greece would be appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
Zev gerstl


From: <P.Mett@...> (Perets Mett)
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 94 08:43:06 -0500
Subject: Southern Comfort

When I asked about the reason for Suthern Comfort of USA manufacture
being not kosher I was told that the OU consider that it is likely to be
made with grape spirit (perhaps someone in USA could confirm this) in
which case it is osur because of stam yeinom.

I am amazed at the suggestion that Chivas Regal contains 16% (or even
any lesser percentage) of wine and do not believe it. As far as I know
it is widely drunk in England by shoimrei mitsvos.



From: Aryeh Blaut <ny000592@...>
Date: Wed, 19 Jan 94 01:24:46 -0500
Subject: Tu Bishvat & Shmita

I asked the following question tonight:
Is it mutar (allowed) to give to JNF to plant (pine) trees in Israel 
during the Shmita year?

We looked up the answer in a sefer (book) on the laws of Shmita --
one is not allowed to plant even non-fruit producing fruit during Shmita.

Aryeh Blaut


From: <weiner@...> (Merril Weiner)
Date: Wed, 19 Jan 94 11:05:11 EST
Subject: Weddings

Good evening.  My fiance and I need some help on some of the smaller
details of our wedding.  You will have to excuse us, but we have never
done this before. :> Please send me e-mail if you can help in any of
these areas.  Thank you.

1.  Kipot.  We are sick of the satin kipot.  I like the white suede ones
but don't know if we can get those cheap enough to bother.  Does anybody
know of a good source?

2.  Benchers.  We don't know of any good benchers.  The NCSY is best.
The translation is okay, it has all of the important songs, the
transliteration is properly placed to the side of the Hebrew, but the
line breaks are bad and we do not want an Ashkenaz transliteration.  Are
there any good benchers with Sephardic transliterations?  I have another
friend also getting married this summer who is similarly frustrated.  We
might write our own bencher out of frustration.  We can do all of the
work and the typesetting ourselves.  Does anybody know of a publisher or
printer that would be helpful in such an endeavor?

3.  Invitations.  Although we have found some good secular wedding
invitations, we prefer to have one with a Jewish theme.  Are there any
GOOD invitation companies out there?  (The ones we could find at the
local Jewish bookstore were not desireable.)

4.  Kittel.  I need a nice thick one so that the color of my tux does
not come through.  Any suggestions?  Should I commission a local

Thank you very much for your help.

   Merril Weiner                <weiner@...>
   1381 Commonwealth Ave. #6    <weiner@...>
   Allston, MA  02134           Boston University School of Law


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