Volume 26 Number 30
                      Produced: Tue Apr 15  1:06:13 1997

Subjects Discussed In This Issue: 

Chametz in two places
         [Mechael Kanovsky]
Charlie Chaplin
         [Andrea Penkower Rosen]
Chat Law
         [Eliezer Diamond]
Davening Directions
         [Gershon Dubin]
Dog Walking on Shabbat
         [Tszvi Klugerman]
eruv Pesach food
         [Debra Fran Baker]
Interesting Halachic Site
         [Shmuel Himelstein]
Meaning of Ceruvim
         [Russell Hendel]
Mushrooms on Pesach
         [Tszvi Klugerman]
New Book: Meta-Halakhah by Moshe Koppel
         [Jeremy Schiff]
Pareve Kosher Gelatin
         [Cynthia Tenen]
Paul Merling on Chaverut
         [Ranon Katzoff]
Pets on Shabbat
         [Eliezer Finkelman]
         [Arlene Mathes-Scharf]
Quinoa for Pesach
         [Andrea Penkower Rosen]
Search on for new Rov - Baltimore
         [Hillel E. Markowitz]
So that the children will ask
         [Susan Shapiro]
The Early Hebrew Printing Home Page
         [Michael Davidson]


From: <KANOVSKY@...> (Mechael Kanovsky)
Date: Sun, 13 Apr 1997 11:25:04 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Chametz in two places

If I have a house both in the states and in Israel and I have chametz in
both places. If I will be only in one of the countries for pesach, say
Israel for example, do I have to sell the chametz in both countries to
two non jews or can I sell the chametz of both places to a non jew in
Israel (through the local rabbi) knowing that the chametz will be bought
back before pesach is over in the U.S. (a sort of cheftza gavra
 mechael kanovsky


From: Andrea Penkower Rosen <apr@...>
Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 00:50:31 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Charlie Chaplin

The following is a query from my brother, Dr. Monty N. Penkower:

Does anyone know, with sources,  if Charlie Chaplin had Jewish ancestry?
He is not listed in the Encyclopedia Judaica or in Wigoder's Encyclopedia
on Famous Jews.

Andrea Penkower Rosen


From: Eliezer Diamond <eldiamond@...>
Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 17:06:53 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: RE: Chat Law

I am amazed that all of the responses to Russell Hendel's discussion of
the "Chat Law" that I have read so far, other than mine, take for
granted that the purpose of this law is to prevent rape. It seems to me
that I showed quite convincingly from the rabbinic sources themselves
that this is not the case. I think any future discussants should take a
look at the sources themselves before commenting on this issue.

Eliezer Diamond


From: <gershon.dubin@...> (Gershon Dubin)
Date: Fri, 11 Apr 1997 12:05:49 EDT
Subject: Davening Directions

>facing in three directions.  There are those who face the direction of
>the aron kodesh.  Others face due east, so that they are turned
>leftward at a forty-five degree angle.  And still others face the same
>direction as the other shuls in the neighborhood--which is facing
>toward the left at a ninety degree angle to the aron kodesh.

	The right direction to face is toward Jerusalem, which in
Western countries is east.  This is not dependent on which way the shul
(Aron Kodesh) faces. [See: Shulchan Aruch Orach Chaim Siman 94 Mishna
Berurah s"k 9]  The problem is that the people who know this and are
therefore facing a direction other than toward the Aron Kodesh will not
change, and neither will those who are facing the Aron Kodesh because
that seems right.  What I don't follow is why there are -3- options
rather than the way the shul faces and east, assuming those are
different.  What is the third?



From: <Klugerman@...> (Tszvi Klugerman)
Date: Sun, 13 Apr 1997 16:57:45 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Dog Walking on Shabbat

In a message dated 97-04-13 02:15:49 EDT, Sheindel Shapiro  <simone@...>
<<   "Shm'iras Shabbos" permits walking a dog on shabbes if you keep the
leash taut (so you are not "carrying" the leash.) >>

The way I understood that ruling is so that the animal is "carrying the

<< Would that mean that where you have an eruv, you can walk your dog on
a lease without violating halachah? I have a dog and I now live in a
city with an eruv and I would like to walk my dog on shabbes if it is
permitted.  (And she would very much like to be walked.)  Is there a
generally accepted opinion on this?>>

I don't know if there is a genrally accepted opinion on this and you
would have to follow your qualified posek, but I believe that in these
instances where muhtzeh is the prohibition of lifting or carrying the
object in question, and we hold, (I believe almost universally) that one
can push a cow or other cattle out of a dangerous area, but not pick up
a lap dog, that one could walk a dog in an eruv area fairly easily.



From: Debra Fran Baker <dfbaker@...>
Date: Sun, 13 Apr 1997 11:48:00 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: eruv Pesach food

>What is portable/purchasable for lunch on erev Pesach in Manhattan?

KLP cottage cheese, fresh or dried fruit, KLP yogurt, carrot or celery
sticks - all of these are either easy to purchase in Manhattan or easy to
take from home.  

Debra Fran Baker                                      <dfbaker@...>


From: Shmuel Himelstein <himelstein@...>
Date: Sun, 13 Apr 1997 11:44:25 +0200 (IST)
Subject: Interesting Halachic Site


I recently came across an interesting Web site which contains capsule 
Halachic summaries in many areas. The site is:


Hag Sameach to all,


From: <rhendel@...> (Russell Hendel)
Date: Tue, 18 Feb 1997 22:25:20 -0500
Subject: Meaning of Ceruvim

Rashi on Gen 3:24 explains that the Biblical Word CERUVIM means "Angels
of Destruction" Rashi on Ex 25:18 explains that CERUVIM refer to "child
like" angels.  It would seem from the Talmud that the CERUVIM are in
charge of intimate and tender emotions (A famous story states that the
Romans were shocked when, after conquering the Temple, they found such a
display of tender emotions in a holy place).

My simple question is how to resolve the apparently conflicting Rashis
that Ceruvim mean Destruction vs Child like tenderness.

Russell Jay Hendel, Ph.d, ASA, RHendel @ MCS DREXEL EDU


From: <Klugerman@...> (Tszvi Klugerman)
Date: Sun, 13 Apr 1997 16:58:06 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Mushrooms on Pesach

<< Have any of the kashrus agencies mentioned this issue? I hope we can
find out the story before Pesach - the thought of living without
mushrooms during Pesach is quite a blow! >>

I used to be a mashgiach at an O-U supervised mushroom plant in
southeastern Connecticut. This was never mentioned 3 years ago. It is
possible that this is something newly discovered.

At anyrate, why not purchase all your mushrooms before pesach and cut
off the bottom of the stem and wash off the rest of the mushroom before
Pesach. Then any chametz remaining would be batel (nullified) although
this wouldn't work on pesach.



From: Jeremy Schiff <schiff@...>
Date: Sun, 13 Apr 1997 09:44:54 +0300
Subject: New Book: Meta-Halakhah by Moshe Koppel 

Dear Mail-Jewish readers,

I thought many of you might be interested in the new book
"Meta-Halakhah: Logic, Intuition, and the Unfolding of Jewish Law", 
by Moshe Koppel, published by Jason Aronson.

The book uses basic ideas in contemporary logic to resolve apparent
contradictions in the traditional understanding of the nature and
origins of Halakhah. Many thorny, often-avoided philosophical questions,
such as how we are to relate to mahloket (differences of opinion) in the
oral tradition despite our insistence that its origin is divine, are
given a very satisfactory answer.

Unlike much of the "Torah vs Science" literature, this book does not
need to resort either to barely-plausible scenarios or apologetics to
resolve the questions it tackles. Its basic thesis is simple, and I
certainly found it not only credible, but by the end of the book
irrefutable. I think this book will in the long run help many people
rethink basic aspects of their Judaism, and I thoroughly recommend it.

Hag Kasher VeSameah,


(P.S. Although the author did ask me to write something about his book on
Mail-Jewish, he is not even giving me a free copy, so the above praise is
honest and whole-hearted!)


From: Cynthia Tenen <meru1@...>
Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 08:15:59 -0400
Subject: Re: Pareve Kosher Gelatin

Perhaps we weren't clear (and by the way, we don't have easy access to
halachic opinions -- if you could summarize that opinion re gelatin from a
kosher animal being pareve, I'd appreciate it). We're talking about a
newly-reappeared product, "Kolatin Kosher Gelatin", which as I understand
from last year, is made from fish bones. And, of course, we weren't talking
about non-kosher animals at all.  The question is, why gelatin from *fish
bones* is pareve, without being designated as "fish" (like Worcester sauce
is, for example)?  Thanks.


From: Ranon Katzoff <katzoff@...>
Date: Sun, 13 Apr 1997 09:16:28 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Paul Merling on Chaverut


You might want to glance at A. Oppenheimer, "The Am-Ha-aretz..." (Leiden,
Brill ca. 1977), in his chapters on the phenomenon of chaverut. The
sources are quoted in full in both Hebrew and English.

Our n'tilat yadayim before eating bread (even when, as always now, the
bread is chulin) is a survival of chaverut. So you might say there was a
trade-off of quality for quantity. The practices of chaverut became very
attenuated, but on the other hand spread throughout Israel.

All the best,

Ranon Katzoff 


From: <Finkelmans@...> (Eliezer Finkelman)
Date: Sun, 13 Apr 1997 11:02:00 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Pets on Shabbat

> From: Simone Shapiro <simone@...>
>  I've just come into the discussion of pets on shabbes, but I have a
>  question regarding Tzaar Baaley Chayim (suffering endured by a living
>  creature) and walking your dog on shabbes.  I have heard and read some
>  conflicting opinions.
>  There seem to be two issues: the dog is muktza and using a leash is
>  carrying.
> ....

According to the Mishnah, "all animals which normally wear leashes may
wear leashes on Shabbat," apparently in the public domain, "and one may
lead them on their leashes on Shabbat" (Shabbat 5:1).  The collar and
leash does not consitute a burden, since this is the normal way of
protecting the animal (Rashi).

This ruling appears uncontested in the Shulhan Arukh, Orah Hayyim 305:5.  

More than thirty years ago, when I owned a dog, my local Rav ruled that
I could hold a leash attached to her collar to walk her in our area,
which did not have an Eiruv.  (see Arukh HaShulhan, O. H. 305:15 for
addtional reasons to permit in a not-entirely public-thoroughfare area,
and, by implication, in an area with an Eiruv.)


Eliezer Finkelman


From: Arlene Mathes-Scharf <ajms@...>
Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 07:44:05 -0400
Subject: Quinoa

The article on the Passover status of quinoa from the Kashus Kurrents is
hosted on http://www.kashrut.com/

Arlene Mathes-Scharf    | 
<ajms@...>        | The Internet's Premier Independent Kashrut
http://www.kashrut.com/ |             Information Source


From: Andrea Penkower Rosen <apr@...>
Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 11:33:53 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Quinoa for Pesach

Thanks for the posting.  It's always good to be able to expand the
Pesach diet.  Now that I've found Quinoa at a local health food store,
does anyone have some tasty recipes?

Andrea Penkower Rosen


From: Hillel E. Markowitz <hem@...>
Date: Sun, 13 Apr 1997 09:42:28 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Search on for new Rov - Baltimore

Rabbi Yirmiyahu Kaganoff, the Rabbi of Congregation Darchei Tzedek,
Baltimore, MD, will be making aliyah this summer.  As a result, the shul
has formed a search committee to find interested applicants.  We are an
Orthodox shul with about 100 families in the Fallstaff/ Seven Mile Lane
area of Baltimore.  Anyone interested in the position can e-mail his
resume to the committee through Tzvi Shear (<hshear@...>) or snail
mail to Rabbi Louis Newmark, 3400 Seven Mile Lane, Baltimore, MD 21208
(410-358-5220) or Dr. Joseph Rifkind, 3309 Bonnie Road, Baltimore, MD
21208 (410-358-3005). 

|  Hillel (Sabba) Markowitz |     Im ain ani li, mi li?      |
|   <H.E.Markowitz@...>   |   V'ahavta L'raiecha kamocha   |


From: <SShap23859@...> (Susan Shapiro)
Date: Sun, 13 Apr 1997 04:05:06 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: So that the children will ask

An idea that a friend of my had was quite unusual, and very effective.
She went to a Church bookstore and bought flannel board sets of the
story of the Exodus, etc, from the Bible Stories section, and then the
kids would tell the story of Pesach using the flannel boards.  She had
to draw in Kippot, etc, for some of the men, but it was very effective
and educational.

Susan Shapiro 


From: Michael Davidson <mcdavids@...>
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 1997 00:08:58 -0500 (EST)
Subject: The Early Hebrew Printing Home Page


I have made up a web page which started as a virtual tour through the
great Jewish libraries on-line but grew to illustrate many aspects of
early Hebraica.

It is a large site with many links, packed with pictures from different
places to show the development and some of the monuments of early Hebrew
printing.  Included are links to Hebrew incunabula, early hassidic
writings, history of the Hebrew printers, the Cairo genizah fragments
and the Dead Sea scrolls, Hebrew manuscript holdings, dealers in
antiquarian Hebraica, and so on.

Interested members of the Mail-Jewish community can find this page at:


Michael Davidson


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