Volume 55 Number 13
                    Produced: Thu Jun 28  7:11:13 EDT 2007

Subjects Discussed In This Issue: 

         [Saul Mashbaum]
Copacetic/ Hakol betsedek
         [Robert Rubinoff]
         [Stu Pilichowski]
Statistics Dispel Claims of 'Thousands of Israeli Agunot' (2)
         [Hillel (Sabba) Markowitz, Gilad J. Gevaryahu]


From: Saul Mashbaum <smash52@...>
Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 22:37:32 +0300
Subject: Re: Beseder

I'm not making this up.

The year we came on aliyah, my wife's sister Gail, then single, was here
too, learning at Machon Gold. When Pesach came around she naturally
joined us for our only, her first seder; she easily found another one to
attend the following night. In any event the second night of Pesach an
Israeli friend of Gail's called us and asked to speak to her (most
Israelis have only a *very* hazy conception of Yom Tov sheni). I said
that she couldn't talk to Gail, she's b'seder. This response apparently
puzzled her friend, who didn't understand why she couldn't speak to Gail
if she's b'seder. It took us a while for both of us to get on the same

Saul Mashbaum  


From: Robert Rubinoff <rubinoff@...>
Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 09:58:26 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Copacetic/ Hakol betsedek

> From: Joseph Ginzberg <jgbiz120@...>
> From "The Word: The dictionary that reveals the Hebrew source of English"
> (Shapolsky, 1989)
> Copacetic- Roots: Copacetic means, "all is well" in slang. The dictionary of
> American Slang suggests Hakol Beseder or Hakol Betzedek.

FWIW, this book just assumes that lots of English words have Hebrew roots, 
and then tries to identify them, based just on similarity.

It has no credibility among linguists.



From: Stu Pilichowski <cshmuel@...>
Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 05:03:08 +0000
Subject: Eichah

Can someone direct to me translations or commentaries on Eichah that
focus on a comparison between the destruction / decline of Jerusalem to
that of man in decline; suffering, and dying?

Stuart Pilichowski
Mevaseret Zion, Israel


From: Hillel (Sabba) Markowitz <sabba.hillel@...>
Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 05:52:09 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Statistics Dispel Claims of 'Thousands of Israeli Agunot'

I think that this may help in the issue.  It appears (if this report is
accurate) that the problem is being treated in a way that is more like
"behalah" (panic) rather than the calm and rational methods that it
should be.  


Note that I copied only the critical sentences from the article.

Statistics Dispel Claims of 'Thousands of Israeli Agunot' 

by Nissan Ratzlav-Katz

(IsraelNN.com) A new survey of unresolved divorce cases before the
nation's rabbinical courts reveals that there are a total of 69 agunot
in the State of Israel

Of the husbands of the 69 agunot, 25 are currently in Israel and 44 are
abroad, most in either France or the United States, and others in
countries such as India, China, Egypt, the Czech Republic and
elsewhere. The total number of women whose husbands have refused to
grant them a divorce, including those cases not yet defined as having
agunah status, is 180. By the same token, another possibly surprising
statistic revealed in the rabbinical court study shows that there are
slightly more men whose wives have refused to grant them a divorce -
190, or about 20% of the unresolved cases.

There were a total of 942 unresolved divorce proceedings [of all types -
HEM] underway in the nation's rabbinical courts at the conclusion of the
study, but another 13 such files were closed in the beginning of 2007.

Hillel (Sabba) Markowitz | Said the fox to the fish, "Join me ashore"
<Sabba.Hillel@...> | The fish are the Jews, Torah is our water

From: <Gevaryahu@...> (Gilad J. Gevaryahu)
Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 09:26:44 EDT
Subject: Statistics Dispel Claims of 'Thousands of Israeli Agunot'

The referenced article appeared today in Arutz Sheva.

If the statistic cited is correct, the problem is much small than
earlier thought, and it is as much a male problem as a female problem.

Gilad J. Gevaryahu


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