Volume 56 Number 05
Produced: Fri Dec 21 6:43:08 EST 2007
Subjects Discussed In This Issue:
Bentching on a Kos
[<chips@...>]
Convert as synagogue president
[Sammy Finkelman]
Converts/women as Synagogue President
[Esther and Aryeh Frimer]
Frum firsters (2)
[Richard Schultz, Avi Feldblum]
Hashgacha on Restaurant Open on Shabbos
[Carl Singer]
Looking for someone
[Gershon Dubin]
Second Avenue Deli
[Eric Mack ]
Sedros
[<chips@...>]
Truma/Masar & the borders of israel
[ZH B]
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From: <chips@...>
Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 13:03:38 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Re: Bentching on a Kos
>[...]
> Finally, I am in full agreement with Ari that with the common
> availability of wine in many of our homes, using a kos for bentching
> with a zimun is a practice that is worthy of reviving.
> Avi
When a post high school yeshiva which allowed regular college
attendance opened in Boro Park in the early '80s, the Rosh Yeshiva asked
about requiring a kos for benching at lunch time. The response he
received was that while it does seem that a kos is needed, the community
already thinks he is crazy for allowing college and he shouldn't add
fuel to the fire by requiring something that no one else did.
-rp
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From: Sammy Finkelman <sammy.finkelman@...>
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 17:43:08 -0500
Subject: Convert as synagogue president
David E. Maslow reports...
> The National Council of Young Israel has issued (or re-
> issued) a ruling that a convert cannot be president of an
> affiliated Young Israel congregation, but has provided
> minimal justification.
>
> What is the halachic basis for this ruling
The Rambam. He held that the command not to make someone who was not
"your brother" a king, also applied to any other kind of top
authoritative position. He was quite liberal (meaning he extebnded this
a far) as to what what kind of positions this applied to. Dr. Josh
Backon gives us the details.
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From: Esther and Aryeh Frimer <frimera@...>
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2007 13:14:40 +0200
Subject: Converts/women as Synagogue President
The issue of a convert as synagogue president is not that different from
that of a woman as Shul president - with the central issue one of serara
(discretional Authority). According to many if not most modern
authorities, Democratic elections changes the halakhic reality and,
hence, allows for a permissive ruling.
I refer the readers to my article in Hebrew :
"Women in Community Leadership Roles in the Modern Period," Aryeh A.
Frimer, In "Afikei Yehudah - Rabbi Yehuda Gershuni zt'l Memorial
Volume," R. Itamar Warhaftig, ed., Ariel Press: Jerusalem, 5765 (2005),
pp. 330-354 (In Hebrew). HTML file available online at
http://www.daat.ac.il/daat/mishpach/maamad/nashim-2.htm .
There is also an Edited Transcript and an unedited audio File of a
lecture I gave on the subject:
"Women in Community Leadership Roles - Shul Presidents" Edited
Transcript of Lecture (in English) with Addenda (Summaries of
Conversations with Rav Aharon Lichtenstein and Rav Nahum Rabinovitch),
Aryeh A. Frimer, Word file available online at
http://www.bermanshul.org/Women_in_Leadership.pdf; unedited audio file
available at http://www.cairotour.org/women_in_leadership_positions.wav.
Source pages are available at
http://www.bermanshul.org/Source_Sheets_-_Women_in_Leadership.pdf.
Kol Tuv
Aryeh (from home)
E-mail: <FrimeA@...>
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From: Richard Schultz <schultr@...>
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2007 13:10:56 +0200
Subject: Frum firsters
In mail-jewish 56:03, <ChaimShapiro@...> (Chaim Shapiro) wrote:
> I would fully support and be completely in favor of Conservative or
> Reform Jews initiating a similar set of services to maximize the
> professional relationships in their respective communities.
Just to make sure that I understand what it is that you are proposing,
am I correct in my assumption that you would agree that there was nothing
wrong in principle with the Nazis' April 1933 boycott of Jewish-owned
businesses?
> Mr. Singer, 5 years ago, I never would have thought a can (or bag) of
> gummy worms would be kosher. But one can certainly open them now.
I'm obviously missing something here, as I am having a very hard time
being convinced that this is necessarily a good thing.
Richard Schultz
<rschultz@...>
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From: Avi Feldblum <feldblum@...>
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2007 06:37:40 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Frum firsters
On Fri, 21 Dec 2007, Richard Schultz wrote:
> Just to make sure that I understand what it is that you are proposing,
> am I correct in my assumption that you would agree that there was
> nothing wrong in principle with the Nazis' April 1933 boycott of
> Jewish-owned businesses?
Richard, I do not understand how you go from a social interaction type
organization that creates an environment where one can initially choose
from one's own social group for business purposes to a boycott situation
where the clear focus is to exlude from the marketplace a different
social / ethnic / religious group. I do not think this comparison is
valid and does not add to the discussion.
Avi Feldblum
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From: Carl Singer <csngr@...>
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 17:05:14 -0500
Subject: Hashgacha on Restaurant Open on Shabbos
> so the 2nd ave deli reopened:
> http://www.1010wins.com/Pastrami-Lovers-Rejoice-as-2nd-Ave-Deli-Reopens/1350563
>
> "And it still boasts being kosher despite the fact it's open seven days
> a week, 24 hours a day.
This is NOT an isolated case, there are many such restaurants in
Manhattan. And there are many agencies who grant them hashgocha.
And it is problematic.
I remember a well-meaning non-Jewish colleague who ordered "kosher" food
for me for a business luncheon. I really can't expect said colleague to
know which hasgochas are / are not to MY standards. Once communication
was established I simplified things with a list of 3 or 4 restaurants
that were appropriate.
Carl Singer
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From: Gershon Dubin <gershon.dubin@...>
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 17:06:28 GMT
Subject: Looking for someone
Does anyone know how to contact either Matityahu or Mordechai Tenenbaum
who live in Boro Park?
Gershon
<gershon.dubin@...>
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From: Eric Mack <ewm44118@...>
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 07:39:36 GMT
Subject: Second Avenue Deli
"Second Avenue Deli is now open. Those of you craving p'tcha, grievenes,
real gefilte -- the time is now. The 2nd Avenue Deli, located at 162 East
33rd Street, between Lexington Avenue and Third Avenue, is now open 24/7
and under the supervision of Rabbi Israel Steinberg. "
http://www.kosher-ny.com/news.php
I can not ascertain the credentials of this Rabbi Steinberg.
Eric Mack
Jerusalem
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From: <chips@...>
Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 13:14:01 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Re: Sedros
>> From: <chips@...>
>> How many sedros did he have for Sefer Shmos? And to repeat the
>> question in the OP - when did the present splits become the norm? I
>> thought it was after the crusades but there is a Rashi in Sota that
>> mentions a Sedra name instead of just perek number.
> Is the sedra name in parentheses, like chapter numbers, or not? If
> not, it's interesting. The chapter numbers were adopted from the
> Christians sometime in, I think, the late 1500s. So our Rashi was
> re-edited to include chapter numbers in parentheses by some later
> hand.
My "bad" , I should have been more explicit.
There is Rashi that mentions a Sedra name as a source instead of the
posuk itself followed by the editor's perek number. (41a , first wide
line)
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From: ZH B <thegeniepig@...>
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 10:25:16 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Truma/Masar & the borders of israel
Is there some minimum standard that all exporters must adhere to for
Truma & Masar here in israel
does all produce being exported to the States have even a minimum level
of Hasgacha that Truma & Masar where taken (like on the State of israel
level)
and on the same line there is much dispute on the proper (Halachic)
borders of israel for Truma & Masar and i think the same applies for
Shmita (like Nachal Tzin near the Arava Valley
i am trying to get an idea of who holds what and where can you enlighten
me some on this
thank you
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