Volume 6 Number 63

Subjects Discussed In This Issue: 

Halacha and Paychecks (3)
         [Jonathan B. Horen, Nachum Issur Babkoff, Daniel Skaist]
Nikuda E-Journal
         [Zvi Lando]


From: <horen@...> (Jonathan B. Horen)
Date: Wed, 10 Mar 93 21:19:47 -0500
Subject: Re: Halacha and Paychecks

>From: Jacob Mazo <mazova@...>

>I am curious as to what is the Halachic position regarding employers  
>not paying their employees on time (assuming both are Jewish).  I  
>seem to remember that this is frowned upon, but cannot recollect  
>anything beyond that.  Thanks in advance for your help. 

Once upon a time (1981-82, l'yeter diyuk) I worked as the Mazkir Klali
[General Secretary] for the Kamenitzer Yeshiva, in Mea Shearim. We
*never* got paid on time. I remember right before Rosh HaShana 5742 -- I
still hadn't gotten paid, and had no food for my family for YomTov. I
was working in the office, when in walked one of the Roshei Yeshiva,
HaRav Yitzchuk Scheiner. We spoke a few minutes about business, and then
I asked him what time he and his family were going to eat Layl Rosh
HaShana. He looked at me with a puzzled expression on his face, and
asked me what I meant. I replied that since he had not yet paid me my
salary, I needed to know when so I could make sure that my family would
be there on time to eat.

By the end of the day I had my paycheck, in full. Shortly after the chag
I gave two-weeks notice.

The halachot are very simple -- we are required to pay daily workers at
the close of the day; weekly workers Erev Shabbat; and monthly workers
Erev Rosh Chodesh (or at the end/beginning of the "civilian" calendar
month if we are outside of Israel).

Unfortunately, there seems to be a "daya" [opinion - Mod.] among
Orthodox Israeli yeshivot that their employees are "hefker" [free -

Not true. And certainly not al-pi [according to - Mod.] halacha.

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From: <babkoff@...> (Nachum Issur Babkoff)
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 93 13:07:14 +0200
Subject: Halacha and Paychecks

The answer is that there is an explicit Torah prohibition against
exactly those practices: "lo talin" - One has transgressed that
prohibition by simply delaying payment to his employee, if even one
night has passed from the "due date".

That is the simple law as far as a "sachir yom" is concerned. "Sachir
yom" is an employee who gets paid for doing what the owner tells him to
do.  There are other (albeit similar in principal) laws, that deal with
a "kablan".  A "kablan" is one who is hired for a specific task, and
after that task is completed, all formal ties between the parties are

In todays society, because of the nature of the work we do, there are
certain aspects of our jobs (computers for example) that would SEEMINGLY
put us in the catagory of "kablan".

However, since ones paycheck is usualy monthly/bi-monthly, in other
words timely, and basicly the base salary is constant, or on a well
defined scale, and it is not dependent per-se on a specific task, rather
as a result of employment in general (usualy employment contracts are
not terminated at the end of a given project, rather the project is
given a time framework), therefore it would seem that most employees,
who work at the same firm, no matter what the project, would be
considered "schirim", and the boss should be made aware (if he's willing
to listen) of the seriousness of that prohibition. I believe that there
is a promise from The Lord in those texts whereby He promises
retribution, or protection of the weak PERSONALY.

                               Nachum Issur Babkoff

From: DANNY%<ILNCRD@...> (Daniel Skaist)
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 93 21:38:44 -0500
Subject: Halacha and Paychecks

"The Concise Book of Mitzvoth" compiled by the Chafetz Chaim (Feldheim
Publishers) lists
Positive commandment #66
"On his day you shall give him his hire" (Deut 24:15)
Negative commandment #38
"the wage of the hired man shall not remain with you until morning" (Lev

".....if someone wrongfully retains the wages of a hired man, it is as
though he takes his life, and he violates all the prohibitions noted above,
as well as the positive commandment; and he also violates the injunctions
(#35,37) "You shall not wrongfully deprive your fellow, nor rob him" (Lev



From: <lando@...> (Zvi Lando)
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 93 22:22:13 -0500
Subject: Nikuda E-Journal


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Contents of Vol 1 Issue 1:

1.1    Editorial

  Expectations from Pres. Clinton
  The Likud Primaries
  American for Peace Now - A major organization?

  Size: 144 lines

1.2    Letter to the Editor - Yoel Ginat, Brookline, Mass. USA

  Nikuda in English!

                         Size: 34 lines

1.3    An open letter to President Clinton - Leah Tourkin

  An American born and raised in Washington, DC, a resident now of Israel for
  the past 18 years, writes an open letter to Bill Clinton on the eve of his
  inauguration as the 44th president of the United States.

  Size: 268 lines

1.4    Interview with Yossi Ben-Aharon (Former Director general of Prime
       Minister's Office of Shamir Government) by Ilana David

  After Thirty Years of Devoted and Professional Service to His Country
  Yossi Ben-Aharon has been given his walking Papers

  Size: 502 lines

1.5    U.N. resolution 242: A common Sense Approach

  Michael Widlanski, former Middle East Correspondent of the Cox Newspapers,
  was editor of "Can Israel Survive a Palestinian State?" published by the
  Institute for Advanced Strategic and Political Studies.

  The State Department and Arab interpretations of the key U.N. Security
  Council Resolution 242, have put the cart before the horse. Resolution 242
  accorded priority to peace and to secure boundaries.  The distorters of
  242 seek to cajole and coerce Israel into dangerous withdrawals which will
  make both peace and secure boundaries impossible.
  Size: 193 lines

1.6    From Defence to Protection

  Dr. Amiel Ungar, Doctor of Political Science, Bar Ilan University

  Israel is abandoning self-reliance as the watchword of her
  security policy.  Instead of Israel being allowed to take full
  responsibility for defending itself _ both along and withing its
  borders _ dangerous concessions are being made in an attempt to
  obtain security.
 Size: 205 lines

1.7    The Re-making of Israel's Image

  Martin Sherman

  The Imperative of Re-Designing Israel's Media Strategy

  Size: 234 lines

1.8    Please Neglect Israel

  Elyakim HaEtzni - former MK of Tchiyah Party, Attorny at Law

  If there is one fundamental change overdue in America's attitude towards
  Israel, it is to delete the word "pressure" from its political lexicon.
  Israel's hopes, wishes and expectations from the new U.S. administration
  can be reduced to two simple words: benign neglect.

  Size: 174 lines


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