Volume 7 Number 65

Subjects Discussed In This Issue: 

Abbreviation - Tushleba
         [Dr. Sheldon Z. Meth]
Apartments in Israel
         [Rena Whiteson]
         [Yosef Bechhofer]
Georgetown Accomodations
         [Shamir Caplan]
Gra and secular knowledge
         [Allen Elias]
Jewish Calendar Program
         [Barry Levinson]
Kosher Whiskey (2)
         [Elliot Hershkowitz, Simon Streltsov]
Learning in the Bathroom
         [Barry H. Rodin]
London Accomodation Available
         [Manny Lehman]
Shellfish decorations
         [Gary Davis]
Torah and Secular Knowledge: New or Old Hashgafa?
         [Jack Reiner]
Torah's Recording of Conversations
         [Laurel Bauer]
Yom Hashoa
         [Ari Z. Zivotofsky]


From: Dr. Sheldon Z. Meth <METH@...>
Date: Tue, 1 Jun 93 08:39:39 -0400
Subject: Re: Abbreviation - Tushleba

The abbreviation asked about by Martin Tanner stands for:
Tam V'nishlam Shevach La'Kel Borey Olam
"The praise to G-d, Creator of the Universe, is completed."
[ or
"the end, praise to G-d creator of the world" from another poster]

This is often placed at the end of author's introduction to sefarim, and
sometimes other books.  See, for example, Herbert Goldstien's Classical

[Also noted by a poster:
Most abbreviations can be found in the book (in Hebrew)
Otzar Rashei Tevot (a treasury of abbreviations) by Sh. Ashkenazi and
D. Yarden, published by Reuben Mass, Jerusalem.]

[Same basic reply given by:

Paul Hamburg - Reference Librarian - Simon Wiesenthal Center
A.M.Goldstein <MZIESOL@...>
Steven Friedell <friedell@...>


From: <rena@...> (Rena Whiteson)
Date: Tue, 1 Jun 93 11:40:38 -0400
Subject: Re: Apartments in Israel

Can anyone put me in touch with an agency that arranges short term ( a
few weeks ) furnished apartment rentals in Jerusalem?

Thanks very much,
Rena Whiteson
Los Alamos National Laboratory


From: <YOSEF_BECHHOFER@...> (Yosef Bechhofer)
Date: Fri, 4 Jun 93 13:43:40 -0400
Subject: Camping

        A very good sourcebook which should be consulted for a project
on Orthodox camping is the sefer "Shabbos U'Moed B'Tzahal" by the Rosh
Yeshiva of yeshivat Sh'alvim, Rabbi Avraham Avidan. It comprehensively
discusses many of the areas of concern.


From: Shamir Caplan <shamir@...>
Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1993 16:55:24 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: Georgetown Accomodations

I'm moving to DC for the upcoming year (June to June) to work for
national Hillel, and I'd like to find a place to live, at least for the
summer.  I'd like a place in walking distance from Kesher Israel in
Georgetown.  I'm also interested in finding someone who wants to learn a
little in the evenings in DC/area (not that I really know how to
learn)....  Suggestions??  Please call me at (817) 468-1935 (my
parents).  I plan to leave for DC on the 8th of June, and I'll be
working at (202) 857-6637....  
Todah Rabah, Shamir Caplan


From: Allen Elias <100274.346@...>
Date: 01 Jun 93 16:31:02 EDT
Subject: Gra and secular knowledge

Remarks to Anthony Fiorino vol.7 no.62 The GRA z"l and secular

The GRA did not have to read secular books to gain his worldly
knowledge.  There is enough secular knowledge in the Torah.

Learning Masechet Kilaim or Succah can help develop mathematical
aptitude.  Much of the Kabalah (the Gra z"l wrote a commentary on Sefer
Yetsira) involves astrophysics and basic theories of Data Structures
(binary trees, pointers, Tower of Hanoi, etc.).

Anyone learning to be a shochet learns the physiology of animals from
studying Yoreh Deah and Masechet Hulin.

It all depends on how one learns. 


From: Barry Levinson <70571.1330@...>
Date: 02 Jun 93 14:01:58 EDT
Subject: Jewish Calendar Program

Regarding the request/response in #55 about calendar programs, there is a 
version of JCAL (it's up to at least v7.5) available for PC's.  This is a 
nice compiled Turbo Pascal program, written and distributed as shareware by 
Lester Penner of Great Neck, NY (Compuserve 75236,1572).  The most recent 
version I've seen also has .exe calls which will return a converted date 
(Gregorian to Jewish or v.v.).  It will also calculate sunset based on 
lattitude, longitude and date (useful for us travellers), parshiot, etc.  
Overall, a very nice program and documentation.


From: <eeh@...> (Elliot Hershkowitz)
Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1993 10:23:54 -0400
Subject: Kosher Whiskey

The subject of kosher whiskey is partially explained in the Passover
pamphlet issued by the CRC (Central Rabbinical Council of the United
States and Canada).  Besides the admixture of wines mentioned by Josh
Klein (v 7, no. 62) there are more common problems.  Probably the most
prevalent is the use of glycerin to give a "curtain" (film forming
capability) to cheaper whiskey.  A second problem arises in the use
of bone charcoal for filtration.  

Since whiskies are chometz there is also the problem of sale and
repurchase over the several years they take to age if they are in the
possesion of Jewish owners.

In the US there are several brands with hashgacha.  Finlandia Vodka,
Kedem and Leroux liquers (read the neck labels carefully) are under the
O-U.  Tam-Pre has several products under the CRC.  For the more daring
there is Old Williamsburg bourbon.

Since I come by this knowledge due to my wife being granted the title of
"Kiddush Lady for Life" I will insert a brief request for lists such as
the one mentioned by Itzhak Kremer.  She finds herself facing "gifts" of
souvenirs brought back from all over the world with all of the politics
that comes with such offerings.  I'll volunteer to compile what I get
and post or e-mail if others are in similar situations.  There ought to
be a book somewhere in this, maybe - Sheilas & Tchuvas of a Kiddush
Lady.  Perhaps for next Purim, bn.  Anyway, e-mail any information, as
for Sheilas CYLOR.


From: <simon1@...> (Simon Streltsov)
Date: Tue, 1 Jun 93 12:42:10 -0400
Subject: Kosher Whiskey

There is a responsa from R.Moshe on the topic of blended whiskey.
I heard the discussion, but do not know the exact place.


From: Barry H. Rodin <brodin@...>
Date: Tue, 1 Jun 93 17:26:10 EDT
Subject: Learning in the Bathroom

What is the basis for the prohibition of learning Torah in the bathroom?
Is this discussed in the Gemmara?  Is it based on a Biblical verse ?


From: Manny Lehman <mml@...>
Date: Wed, 2 Jun 93 11:13:14 -0400
Subject: London Accomodation Available

Our children, Rabbi and Mrs I Shaffer, have asked me to announce that their
"Kosher" 3 bedroom house in North Hendon, London, 3 minutes from the North
Hendon Adass Shul, is available for rent for 2 - 3 weeks in August, dates
and cost negotiable. Contact, telephone +44 (081) 203 0563 or via me at
email <mml@...>

Manny Lehman


From: Gary Davis <davis@...>
Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1993 12:19:58 -0300 (ADT)
Subject: Shellfish decorations

Mike Gerver's note on the use of snails for dye is interesting and leads
me to ask what by-products of treif is acceptable for decorations and what
is not!
- Gary Davis


From: <jack@...> (Jack Reiner)
Date: Tue, 1 Jun 93 13:39:15 CDT
Subject: Re: Torah and Secular Knowledge: New or Old Hashgafa?

It is my understanding that the Rambam practiced medicine, and Rashi
grew grapes.  Even eight hundred years ago medicine would require study,
and certainly both of these great men spent time working in secular
occupations.  Since I am no scholar, will someone please shed light on

Jack Reiner
New Orleans, La.


From: Laurel Bauer <BAUER@...>
Date: 03 Jun 1993 08:11:28 -0500
Subject: Torah's Recording of Conversations

I recently read the following: "Also, writes R' Feinstein, the Torah may
not always record conversations verbatim;"

Can anyone supply a source for this or other elaborations on this idea.


From: <azz@...> (Ari Z. Zivotofsky)
Date: Tue, 1 Jun 93 12:50:11 -0400
Subject: Re: Yom Hashoa

A number of weeks ago someone posted a list of references on a date for
yom Hashoa.  It included a reference to an article by R. Kasher in Noam
19.  The article there is about the halachik dateline.  Interesting but
not what I was looking for.  If anyone has the correct reference for an
article by R. Kasher on Yom Hashoa (If there is one) I would appreciate
if you could le


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