Volume 8 Number 87
                       Produced: Mon Aug 23 22:39:17 1993

Subjects Discussed In This Issue: 

A Former mail-jewish-er goes to Israel
         [Avi Hyman]
Akron OH
         [Deborah Sommer]
Jewish Fiction
         [Anthony Fiorino]
Kosher in Atlantic City, NJ
         [Elliot Lasson]
Kosher Mezuzah and Disaster (2)
         [Janice Gelb, Sue Kahana]
Question about Haftora
         [Israel Botnick]
Restaurant in Paris
         [Yoseff Francus]
Roles of Men and Women
         [Warren Burstein]


From: <Avi_J._Hyman@...> (Avi Hyman)
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 93 13:55:23 -0400
Subject: A Former mail-jewish-er goes to Israel

A former susbcriber to mail-jewish Avrom Finkelstein has moved to Israel
for a while but before he went he asked me to see if someone could get
him access to a computer and an e-mail account so he could continue
getting mail-jewish

he's gone off to a Yeshiva called Toras Moshe in Jerusalem on Rechov
Yoel which is off Mea Shearim, so if anyone over there can help me, that
would be great


From: <dway@...> (Deborah Sommer)
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 93 11:02:12 -0400
Subject: Akron OH

I'm considering a job in akron, oh, and was wondering if anyone has some
information.  all one of the guide books had was one shul, anshai sfard.
any help would be appreciated.



From: Anthony Fiorino <fiorino@...>
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 93 16:06:29 -0400
Subject: Jewish Fiction

I haven't followed this discussion too closely, so please forgive any

Bernard Malamud's The Fixer I found very compelling; The Assistant less so
but still good.  Philip Roth happens to be laugh-out loud funny, but quite
raunchy at times.  Many consider him to be a self-hating Jew, but I have
found that many of his barbs hurt precisely because they are on target. 
While Portnoy's Complaint was somewhat slapstick, later works such as the
Counterlife are quite serious.  Primo Levi's non-fiction works are
outstanding, but I have not yet read his fiction -- I heard it is
terrific, though.  Isaac Singer's short stories are among my all-time
favorites as well, especially the older ones.



From: <Elliot_David_Lasson@...> (Elliot Lasson)
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 93 18:00:08 -0400
Subject: Kosher in Atlantic City, NJ

We will be staying near Atlantic City, NJ for a couple of days next
week.  Could anyone advise on kosher restaurants, food, etc. in that

Elliot D. Lasson


From: <Janice.Gelb@...> (Janice Gelb)
Date: Mon, 23 Aug 93 19:20:10 -0400
Subject: Re: Kosher Mezuzah and Disaster

In mail.jewish Vol. 8 #85 Digest, Allen Elias writes:

> >From: <M.Isaacs@...> (Malcolm Isaacs)
> >
> >I recall an incident a few years ago, in which a school in
> >Israel (Haifa?) lost a number of children in what I think was a
> >terrorist attack.  The mezuzah of that classroom was checked (at
> >the instigation of the Lubavitcher Rebbe?) and found to be
> >passul.  Does anyone have the details of this incident?
> I don't remember when but it was a school bus from Petach Tikvah.
> It was hit by the Haifa-Tel Aviv train at an unofficial crossing.
> 22 children were killed. It was not the Lubavitcher Rebbe who called
> for examining the mezuzas but someone from Bnei Brak.

This happened some time in 1985. Regarding this same incident, an Aguda
M.K. claimed at the time that it had happened because the movie theatre
in Petach Tikva had started opening on Friday nights.  People were
outraged. We asked an Aguda friend of ours what she thought of the
comment, and she said that most of their community agreed with the M.K.
but everyone thought he was stupid for saying it to the press...

Janice Gelb                  | (415) 336-7075     
<janiceg@...>   | "A silly message but mine own" (not Sun's!) 

From: Sue Kahana <SUE%<HADASSAH@...>
Date: Sun, 22 Aug 93 11:25 JST
Subject: Kosher Mezuzah and Disaster

>I don't remember when but it was a school bus from Petach Tikvah.
>It was hit by the Haifa-Tel Aviv train at an unofficial crossing.

	It was Habonim crossing.

>                         It was not the Lubavitcher Rebbe who called
>for examining the mezuzas but someone from Bnei Brak.

	It was Knesset member Harav Peretz

>This railroad crossing is known to be dangerous but nothing was done
>to either fence it off or put in lights.

	I was at that crossing last week.  There are BOTH lights and
a gate there today.  Unfortunately, if you want to see if a train is
coming and the gate is up, the line of sight is blocked.

				Sue Kahana


From: <icb@...> (Israel Botnick)
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 93 15:10:14 EDT
Subject: Question about Haftora

I have a question regarding the origin of the haftarot [portions from
navi read following the reading of the torah] that we have printed in
our chumashim after each parsha[weekly torah portion].  What is their
origin? At what period in time were these specific haftora portions
decided upon?

The origin of the takana[establishment] of reading the haftora goes back
at least to the time of the compilation of the mishna. We know this from
the fact that the mishnayot relate some halachot[laws] of haftora (3rd
chapter of megillah).  At the time of the mishna, it seems that there
were no set portions of navi designated to be read together with
specific torah portions (except for the few mentioned in the talmud such
as parshat zachor, parshat shekalim, holidays and a few others).  The
only requirement (that I know of) in the mishna or talmud as to what
navi portion is to be read, is that it be related to the torah portion
that it is read with (megilla 29b). The mishna tells of certain portions
of navi that shouldn't be read but does not dictate which should be

Furthermore, the talmud says that our minhag of finishing the torah each
year (1 parsha a week), was not practiced everywhere. In some
communities the torah was finished every 3 years(megilla 29b). The
Rambam says that this minhag was practiced by some in his day too
(hilchot tefilla chapter 13). This is consistent with the fact that the
torah reading for shabbat is not required to be more than 24
psukim[sentences] (8 aliyot - 3 psukim each). Certainly there could not
have been set haftarot all along since different communities read
different torah portions. Who then compiled the set of haftorot that we

The earliest place i've found references to set haftarot for each week
was in the Rema and magen avraham in siman 428 of orach chaim. There are
references there (mentioned in passing) about what are the haftorot for
certain parshiot.

Does anyone know anything about this?

Israel Botnick


From: <francus@...> (Yoseff Francus)
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 93 10:52:14 -0400
Subject: Restaurant in Paris

I am well aware that Paris has many kosher restaurants. What I am 
looking for is a top-of-the line kosher restaurant. Le Chandelier
was a place like this, unfortunately it is no longer in business.
For those who know the NY restaurants I'm looking for something
that could compare with Levanna, Tever (formerly Trastever 84), Medici 56.

although I do read mail.jewish on occasion, please email me
your responses as well.




From: <warren@...> (Warren Burstein)
Date: Sun, 22 Aug 93 11:01:50 -0400
Subject: Re: Roles of Men and Women

Larry Teitelman writes:

>(3) The gemara in Berakhot tells us that if HKBH comes to shul and
>doesn't find a minyan, He -- kivyachol -- gets angry.

I wish to point out that in communities wehre there is, thank God, no
trouble getting a minyan, this is not a reason for each individual to
attend.  I feel a greater obligation to get to the minyan when there
is trouble finding a minyan than when the minyan is smoothly

This also is not a reason why a woman, who is not able to assist with
making the minyan, ought to prefer a minyan to another framework.

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