Volume 25 Number 84
                      Produced: Sun Jan 26  8:56:14 1997

Subjects Discussed In This Issue: 

Bone Marrow Transplants
         [Anthony Fiorino]
         [Lon Eisenberg]
Chevron: What now?
         [Chaim Wasserman]
Covering holy name
         [Carolyn Lanzkron]
Hypertension and Kosher Chicken
         [Lisa Halpern]
Opening Plastic Bottle Caps on Shabbos
         [Yussie Englander]
         [Dovid C Goldberg]
Owning Pet Rabbits
         [Bonnie Weinberg]
Pets on Shabbat
         [Benjamin Waxman]
Shale Sheedes
         [Les Train]
Sistine Chapel
         [Carl Sherer]
Support Groups
         [Carl Sherer]
Why are women exempt from certain mitzvot?
         [Francine S. Glazer]


From: Anthony Fiorino <afiorino@...>
Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 21:53:14 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Bone Marrow Transplants

Zvi Weiss wrote:
> Regarding Marrow transplants, I have just read in the most recent
> newsletter from the HLA Registry Foundation, Inc. (where I am
> registered...) that there is an additional procedure for obtaining stem
> cells -- where it is actually "harvested" from the blood.  I do not have
> the article in front of me -- but the two procedures (obtaining stem cells
> from marrow vs. obtaining stem cells from blood) are presented as somewhat
> complementary to each other.  If this is the case, then even those afraid
> of the hip-bone procedure would be able to donate via this alternate
> procedure.

As far as I know, from my experience on the bone marrow transplant unit
at the Hospital of the University of Pennsylvania, peripheral stem cell
harvesting is only being done for autologous bone marrow transplants
(use of a patient's own cells for transplant), not for allogeneic
transplants (transfer of cells from a donor to a recipient).  A typical
setting might involve a patient with an advanced solid tumor who
undergoes peripheral stem cell harvest, then receives extremely
high-dose chemotherapy, after which time the stem cells are re-infused.
Often, patients receive a course of chemotherapy prior to peripheral
stem cell harvest in order to "rev up" the lineage and thus increase the
number of peripherally circulating stem cells.  Thus, any person who is
an HLA match can expect to undergo aspiration of marrow in the typical
manner (which is generally very well tolerated, by the way).

Eitan Fiorino
Anthony (Eitan) S. Fiorino, M.D., Ph.D.
Department of Medicine - Hospital of the University of Pennsylvania
Philadelphia, PA  19104
email: <afiorino@...>
homepage: http://mail.med.upenn.edu/~afiorino


From: Lon Eisenberg <eisenbrg@...>
Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 08:24:16 +0000
Subject: Cheese

What is the difference between hard cheese with a standard
(i.e. rabbanut) hekhsher and hard cheese with a mehadrin (e.g. bata"z)

What is the difference between soft cheese with a standard
(i.e. rabbanut) hekhsher and soft cheese with a mehadrin (e.g. bata"z)

Lon Eisenberg   Motorola Israel, Ltd.  Phone:+972 3 5658422 Fax:+972 3 5658424


From: <Chaimwass@...> (Chaim Wasserman)
Date: Sat, 18 Jan 1997 18:59:07 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Chevron: What now?

In a message dated 97-01-17 09:10:42 EST, you write:

<< Having just come back from weekly davening at the Meara, where I have BH
 the Zchut of feeling the Kdusha of Mearat HaMachpela, I still contend
 there is something we can do in addition to davening.

 We must show HaShem that we YEARN for Eretz Yisrael and we must, as
 Torah Jews, do it with our feet whenever possible. Mitzvat Yishuv Eretz
 Yisrael Shkula KeNeged Kol HaMitzvot. It's almost 50 years that Aliya is
 probably the easiest it's ever been in our history and yet the majority
 of Jews have still chosen Galut.

 I pray that each and every one of you is Zocheh to live in Eretz Yisrael
 soon.  >>

Leah Wolf is very much on target concerning the new realities reflected
in the Chevron agreement (Oslo Three?). Let me suggest yet an additional
 Specifically: The single most important factor to insure that CHevron
remains a top issue over the next two years - the time frame for further
withdrawal - is massive numbers of people visiting Chevoron on Shabbat
as well as the weekdays.

Any travel agents reading this?  Start celebrating bnai/bnot mitzvah in
Chevron. Can it be arranged as it is at the Kotel?

Families must vacation not in Hawaii for Pesash or the Carribbean, but
in Chevron if possible. If not for all of Pesach, go to Yerushalayim not
Hawaii and then get over to Chevron. The flow must be constant and ever

In this manner, even if certain individuals cannot arrange aliyah they
can make a real impact on the new realities which we now face in Israel
as we come on to the 21st century.

chaim wasserman


From: Carolyn Lanzkron <CLKL@...>
Date: Wed, 22 Jan 97 12:55:33 UT
Subject: Covering holy name

What are the issues involved in putting a sticker over shaimot?  

Someone has asked me to make stickers with the shema on them with
cantillation, to be placed over the shema in the siddur, which doesn't
have the cantillation marks.  These stickers would be permanently placed
over the current shema, and the siddurim would still be in use.  Of
course, if someone tried to remove a sticker, the shaim would be torn.

Thank you,


From: <ohayonlm@...> (Lisa Halpern)
Date: Sat, 25 Jan 1997 20:38:56 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Hypertension and Kosher Chicken

 I am currently working (as a student geriatric nurse practitioner) at a
Jewish retirement community.  A problem I have encountered with my
patients with high blood pressure (who therefore require a low-sodium
diet)is that they have an extremely difficult time adequately reducing
sodium while still eating kosher chicken.  I certainly do NOT intend to
recommend to my patients any particular halachic position on this issue
- if asked, I would refer them to a rabbi - but I am personally
interested in the range of halachic possibilities.  Additionally, I
would like to know if anyone has encountered a similar problem and/or
can offer any practical suggestions.
 Thank you.
Lisa Halpern


From: <Jsph26@...> (Yussie Englander)
Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 02:10:37 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Opening Plastic Bottle Caps on Shabbos

My chavrusah and I were discussing hilchos shabbos, specifically opening
bottles. He asked me to put out a feeler. Has anyone heard of a psak by Rabbi
Shlomo Zalman Aurbach (my apologies for any misspelled name) regarding the
opening of PLASTIC bottle caps on shabbos? Thanks for any information.

Yussie Englander


From: <zg@...> (Dovid C Goldberg)
Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 18:31:18 EST
Subject: Orlah

	I know that orlah [fruit is forbibben for 3 years after tree's
planting] applies even outside Eretz Yisrael, and even after the
destruction of the Beis Hamikdash. But what about neta revai ? Meaning,
obviously you can't bring it to the B"H in Jerusalem, but does that mean
you can't eat the fruits in the fourth year as well ? Do you destroy the
fruits ? Leave them there?? Eat them ???



From: Bonnie Weinberg <schwara@...>
Date: Sun, 19 Jan 1997 13:03:58 +0200 (WET)
Subject: Owning Pet Rabbits

We have a pet rabbit and someone told me recently that you are not
allowed to own a non kosher pet. Does anyone have a sorce for this?  By
the way our rabbit chewed up my husband's Tzizit while hanging to dry on
the clothes line!

Bonnie Weinberg, Jerusalem Israel
Tel. 972-2-586-8222


From: Benjamin Waxman <benjaminw@...>
Date: Sun, 19 Jan 1997 08:39:30 +0200
Subject: Pets on Shabbat

A while back a question was asked regarding pets on Shabbat - are they
mookza or not.  Being a cat owner I am quite interseted in the question.
The following information was gleaned from the Yalkut Yosef, Book 4.
page208, law 21 (Mookza machmat gofo) [What is in parenthisis is my

All animals are mookza and it is forbidden to move them.  It is
permitted to feed them and if an animal is suffering from the sun, it is
permitted to move them.

The source is Talmud Shabbat 128:b Basic explanation is from the Ron,
that they are not suitable for anything, like stones and sticks (are
unsuitable for any purpose unless designated).  This reason is brought
in the Beit Yosef and in the achronim.  According to this it is
forbidden to move an animal even if you need its place or want to use
the animal for some permitted purpose.

However the Tosaphot (48:b) wrote that they are mookza like unripened
fruits and nuts.  ( See Shulhan Aruch 210, clause 1) (That is to say,
that these are things that a person puts aside because, they are not
edible and even smell).  Therefore since a) they are put aside and b)
they aren't suitable for anything they are mookza.  (But, to be mookza
because of this reason requires both aspects. Most people do not put
their animals away).

However, Rav Ovadia adds that according to the Tosaphot, animals are
mookza in the sense that since they have no usage, a person doesn't
think about them on Shabbat and therefore they are mookza.  In addition,
since there is a gezera not to use animals in any way what-so-ever they
are mookza.

However, according to another source, the gezera would not apply to
small animals since the gezera prohibits riding on animals.  But this
point is also disputed.

His final psok is that animals are mookza, as the Shulhan Aruch wrote,
in Oroch Chaim, 208, clause 39.

(The source that you heard therefore was based on the Tosaphot, that
since the animals are not put aside, they are not mookza).

Ben Waxman, Technical Writer
Tel. +972-2-6528274 ext.109, Fax. +972-2-6528356
LiveLink Systems Ltd. - www.livelink.com


From: Les Train <ltrain@...>
Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 01:23:06 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Shale Sheedes

Dovid hamelekh received a vision that he would be nifter on Shabbos, and
so spent the entire day in study. An angel caused a wind to make a
commotion in the courtyard, and when King David went to investigate, he
passed on. This is supposed to have happened just before maariv - around
the time of the shalesheedes, and so the tie-in with King David and he
moshiach is apparent. I was told that it is inappropriate to wish
someone good-shabbos at this time, because of the events.
 Les Train


From: Carl Sherer <sherer@...>
Date: Sun, 12 Jan 1997 23:50:06 +0000
Subject: Sistine Chapel

Chips writes:
> I know that one is not allowed to go to the Sistine Chapel. But what
> about buying a coffee table book or downloading pictures of the
> frescos?

I asked some years ago about going into churches and was told that if a
chapel is no longer used as a church, it is permitted to go into it.  It
is my understanding that the Sistine Chapel is no longer used as a
church; it is only "used" for people to look at the artwork.

-- Carl Sherer

Please daven and learn for a Refuah Shleima for our son,
Baruch Yosef ben Adina Batya among the sick of Israel.  
Thank you very much.

Carl and Adina Sherer


From: Carl Sherer <sherer@...>
Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 21:27:57 +0000
Subject: Support Groups

Anonymous writes:

> Does anyone know of any Jewish support groups for people with
> disabilities and chronic illness that are on-line?

Unfortunately, in the past several months, we have gotten involved in
three on line support groups for illnesses as a result of Baruch Yosef's
situation (one of which is Baruch Hashem no longer relevant, but we
continue to stay on there because we are occasionally able to help
people).  We also lurked on a fourth list for about a week or so.  None
of these lists are Jewish lists; if anyone else knows of a specifically
Jewish list, we would be interested in hearing.

We have *many* listserv addresses and URL's for all kinds of illnesses
stored on our computer, and if Anonymous or anyone else wishes to know
about where they can get support for a specific illness, they can
contact us off line; we either have the information or should be able to
get it fairly quickly (a lot of the medical people seem to be on more
than one list).

However, I would hasten to point out that on each list I have found many
Jews, and even several fruhm Jews.  The issues dealt with on that type
of list are issues that cut across all social groups, and for the most
part are not Jewish specific.  One of the nisyonos (tests) that we have
had from being on the lists, is the frequent opportunity to perform a
Kiddush Hashem (sanctifying G-d's name) by how we react to the
(unfortunately often bad) news that is posted to these lists.  I can
only pray that Hashem has given us the fortitude to withstand this
nisayon.  Additionally, we have had several opportunities for kiruv
(bringing others close to Hashem) on these lists, opportunities which
might not have been of the same quality in another environment.
Therefore, regardless of whether Anonymous finds a specifically Jewish
list, I would urge him/her to consider joining the general population's
list for that specific illness.

-- Carl Sherer

Please daven and learn for a Refuah Shleima for our son,
Baruch Yosef ben Adina Batya among the sick of Israel.  
Thank you very much.

Carl and Adina Sherer


From: Francine S. Glazer <fglazer@...>
Date: Sun, 29 Dec 1996 20:06:47 -0500
Subject: Why are women exempt from certain mitzvot?

    From: <rhendel@...> (Russell Hendel)
    1) TZITZITH (nUM 15:37-41, esp 15:39) strengthens men against the sexual
    temptations of the business world (since women usually are not there
    they don't need this extra symbolic reminder (though if they are there
    they are allowed (=encouraged) to wear them).... [and several more
    exemptions are explained in this vein]

Okay, I'll ask the obvious.  If women "usually are not there" (in the
business world), then what exactly are the sexual temptations of that
presumably all-male world?  And why would an extra reminder be needed

fran glazer


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