Volume 52 Number 06
                    Produced: Mon Jun  5  6:16:37 EDT 2006

Subjects Discussed In This Issue: 

Adler Machzor
         [Martin Stern]
Chafetz Chaim's Payehs
         [Carl A. Singer]
Chazanut music on the Web
         [Shmuel Himelstein]
Dam HaNefesh
         [David Neuman]
Hear Rav Soloveitchick (public lecture) in English
         [David Roth]
Kaddish practice in 12 month
         [Joel Rich]
Kol Kavua vs. Rov
Midrash online
         [M Burns]
Multiple Worlds
New Book: Man And Beast
         [Natan Slifkin]
No Plans for Parnasa
Q re congregational worker w/ medical / physical difficulties
         [Arieh Lebowitz]
Rabbi Sacks New Sefer
         [Joel Rich]
Religious Zionism on the Fringes #1
         [Seth Kadish]
Women saying kaddish
         [Carl A. Singer]


From: Martin Stern <md.stern@...>
Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2006 06:50:23 +0100
Subject: Adler Machzor

On Thu, 4 May 2006 06:13:00 -0700 (PDT), Nathan Lamm <nelamm18@...>

> c) Perhaps saying the Shir Shel Yom before Shacharis is a carryover
> from Yom Kippur? I seem to recall seeing it in other Machzorim. Again,
> the Shir is a relatively recent addition ("relatively" meaning
> centuries), so the order may not be set in stone.

One of the earliest references to this custom is the Kitsur Sh'lah (17th
century) who mentions it as a custom of pious people to say it after
korbanot, i.e. before pesukei dezimra, with which it has a natural

Martin Stern


From: Carl A. Singer <casinger@...>
Date: Sun, 04 Jun 2006 22:45:04 -0400
Subject: Chafetz Chaim's Payehs

From: I. Balbin <isaac@...>
>Rachmono Litzlan (Gd save us). Of course he had payehs.  Whether they
>were Chassidish style or Brisker Style or Misnagdish is the issue, and
>that, my friends, is also a matter of Psak Din.  The Chafetz Chaim Z"TL

Let's put this into context.  The assertion is that he did not have
payehs as depicted in the pictures - the long flowing, etc.  No doubt he
was k'halacha on such things.



From: Shmuel Himelstein <himels@...>
Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 07:55:45 +0300
Subject: Chazanut music on the Web

If you're interested in Shul music, you will find dozens of music books
of Chazanut free for downloading, at http://www.shulmusic.org/

Truth in advertising declaration: It includes my father's two books of
Chazanut as well.

Shmuel Himelstein


From: David Neuman <daveselectric@...>
Date: Wed, 3 May 2006 07:38:03 -0400
Subject: Dam HaNefesh

What constitutes Dam HaNefesh? 
What blood is required to be saved for burial?

duvid neuman
Dave's Electrical Service, LTD.


From: David Roth <davidyonah@...>
Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2006 00:23:42 -0400
Subject: Hear Rav Soloveitchick (public lecture) in English

> For those who have never heard Rav Soloveitchik (and for those that
> have) I have posted an Yarzeit shiur of the Rav at
> http://www.heartherav.org along with a Word file containing a complete
> transcript of the shiur.

See also http://www.613.org/rav.html and

David Roth


From: Joel Rich <JRich@...>
Date: Wed, 3 May 2006 08:21:38 -0400 
Subject: Kaddish practice in 12 month

IIUC it's generally accepted that if no other chiyuvim are present, an
avel in the 12th month takes precedence for the amud. I'm wondering what
the practice is in such a case in a minyan where the minhag follows iirc
the Rama's position that the final kaddish is said even w/o a chiyuiv
present. IIUC it's usually said by the gabbai or the Rabbi, but in this
case does the shatz say it?

Joel Rich


From: Heshy <hhandls@...>
Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2006 08:58:13 +0200
Subject: Kol Kavua vs. Rov

I know a definitional difference between Kol Kavua and Rov: Kol Kavua is
when you create the doubt (you buy from the store) and Rov is when the
doubt is created without you (the meat is found outside).

1) What is the reasoning (svara) behind this difference?
2) Is there a mathematical interpretation of the reasoning for the



From: M Burns <ListMail@...>
Date: Thu, 25 May 2006 11:24:37 -0400
Subject: Midrash online

Hello Scholars,

  Is there a site where I can find an English translation of the
original text of the Midrash? All I have found so far is modern
commentaries that quote passages from the Midrash, but nothing that
gives the original text in its entirety.

  In particular, I am looking for the story of when Avram smashed the
idols in his father's shop. I have found the story retold in a number
of places and I have seen it attributed to "Midrash Bereishit 38:13". I
would like to read the story in the context of the original set of
writings in which it appeared. Is this available anywhere online?

  Thank you. I appreciate your help in finding this information.

Best regards,
M. Burns


From: .cp. <chips@...>
Date: Wed, 10 May 2006 23:39:03 -0700
Subject: Multiple Worlds

Anyone know where the Tiferes Yesroel discusses the concept of multiple
worlds in relation to the age of Creation ?


From: Natan Slifkin <zoorabbi@...>
Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2006 10:02:12 +0300
Subject: New Book: Man And Beast

I am pleased to announce the publication of my new book, "Man And Beast:
Our Relationships with Animals in Jewish Law and Thought." It can be
purchased online at www.yasharbooks.com/shop or at Jewish bookstores.

Natan Slifkin


From: <HHgoldsmith@...>
Date: Fri, 12 May 2006 14:14:03 EDT
Subject: No Plans for Parnasa

Would anyone like to comment (based on personal experience) on the
ever-increasing trend of boys getting married who do not have any plans
for parnasa, and are told by their rebbeim that they should just have
bitachon and everything will work out?


From: Arieh Lebowitz <ariehnyc@...>
Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 11:05:46 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Q re congregational worker w/ medical / physical difficulties

Dear Mail Jewish List-ers:

The director of a U.S. congregation recently wrote us - I work at the
Jewish Labor Committee - at the suggestion of their rabbi, regarding a
situation they have with one of their employees.

While we know more than a little on many things, this issue seemed one
on which at least some of you might be especially able to give some
guidance and insights.  We were told that they are looking for guidance
not so much in terms of the legalities but of the Jewish ethics and
teachings that may apply to this situation.  And that is why we're
writing to you now.

The congregation has a full time caretaker who has been with them for
about 6 years. He has been unable to work due to a medical condition
since late March -- i.e., almost two months. He is fully insured and has
been under the care of various doctors and continues to be tested and
treated. His paid leave (sick and vacation accrued) will run out at the
beginning of July. He also lives on-site in an apartment as part of his
compensation package.

We are told that the congregation is doing everything possible to
prepare him for the possibility he may no longer be able to do this very
physical job. Of course, they hope he will be able to continue, but also
have to be realistic about the demands of the work (moving tables,
chairs, cleaning, etc.)

The congregation has offered to have a social worker from the community
meet with him to discuss the possibilities of the need to go on
disability and/or find alternative work. They've also encouraged him to
be honest with his doctor about the kind of work he does and his health

The most immediate questions are these:

1 ** What Jewish values come into the picture as the congregation may
need to help the caretaker transition into another situation?

2 ** What might the congregation's obligations be regarding his care
from a Jewish perspective?

3 ** Are there any particular relevant Torah readings, or responsa,
around this issue?

Any information you can provide (including other resources we might
share) will be greatly appreciated.

Arieh Lebowitz
Communications Director, Jewish Labor Committee
25 East 21st Street, New York, NY  10010
email: <jlcexec@...>  // phone: 212-477-0707 // fax: 212-477-1918


From: Joel Rich <JRich@...>
Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2006 05:11:11 -0400 
Subject: Rabbi Sacks New Sefer

For a number of years many of us benefited from the Torah of R' Yonasan
Sacks Shlit"a, Rosh Yeshiva at YU/RIETS.

Rabbi Sacks has just published a sefer, Chemdat Yamim, containing his
insights on Mitzvot Shabbat and Melachot Shabbat.

If you are interested in obtaining a copy ($18 each) please contact me
at <joelirich@...>

Kol Tuv,
Joel Rich


From: Seth Kadish <skadish@...>
Date: Mon, 29 May 2006 20:23:52 +0200
Subject: Religious Zionism on the Fringes #1

Hi! This is the first of what I plan IY"H to be the first in a series of
occassional posts (once or twice a month) to describe a world that most
religious English-speakers know very little about, namely: Life in
Israel as a Religious Zionist on the "fringes."

This time, and probably most times, these posts will be translations of
mildly humorous blurbs by Elyashiv Reichner, who is in my opinion
perhaps the best observer of Religious Zionist life in Israel and who,
like myself, lives "on the fringes." On occassion I may also write
something of my own.  (I will often paraphrase Reichner to make him
better understood in English.)

First of all, what is the "fringe"? Actually, it is a double fringe:

1. The Social Fringe: Religious Zionists who live in places where not so
many other Religious Zionists live. (I.e. not in settlements or urban
neighborhoods that are all-religious or heavily religious, but rather in
places where most people are just "normal" Israelis.)

2. The Geographical Fringe: Not in the metropolitan Jerusalem or
Tel-Aviv areas. This is the Israeli equivalent of "out-of-town". (Note
that for "regular" Israelis the Haifa/Kerayot area is also a real city,
but for religious Israelis it is "out-of-town".)

Today's post is:

"Four Annoying Questions that Religious Zionists in Development Towns
are Asked"

by Elyashiv Reichner

Nekudah #290, Iyyar 5766 (this is also a good advert to get people to
subscribe to Nekudah!)

Q. What, are you still there? Haven't you given up already?

A. Well, it's not like we signed a contract that we had to stay here,
it's actually that we *like* living here a lot! We're not just here for
a year of "sherut leumi" (national service).

Q. Aren't you worried about your children's education?

A. Aren't you worried too? Or do you have some sort of foolproof formula
for success in the education of children?

Q. How much have you succeeded in influencing people there?

A. Hey, this isn't a soccer game with a running score, nor are we
missionaries. We came here to live together with everyone else, both to
give and to receive, like any other resident.

Q. Where do you think it is more important to live, in development towns
or in the settlements of Judea and Samaria?

A. And who do you love more, your father or your mother? Why must one
disqualify the other? By the way, most Israelis live in neither, so
trying asking them the question!

Seth Kadish

http://www.seforimonline.org/seforim7.html (#169-172)

A Guide to Reading Nevi'im & Ketuvim


From: Carl A. Singer <casinger@...>
Date: Sun, 04 Jun 2006 22:54:48 -0400
Subject: Women saying kaddish

For whatever reason at the present moment there are no men saying
kaddish for deceased relatives at our main Shabbos minyan.  As a result
kaddish is not said except for one towards the end of davening that is
said by one of the balabtim (at the Rabbi's request.)

Here's the problem -- there is a woman who is saying kaddish for her
parent and has heretofore said it concurrently with the men (the first
two after Rebbe Yehsmuel & Mizmor, and after anime z'mirot and aleynu
and the shir shel yom.  She is uncomfortable no longer being able to say
the rabbanim kaddish, etc.

How do other shuls handle this situation?

Would it be proper to have a man who is not a cheyuv say all of the
kaddishes (ostensibly for her parent) so that she might still say
kaddish concurrently with him.

There are no male relatives saying kaddish for this person.

Carl Singer


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